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Crowne Plaza Foshan Hotel

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Fails WP:ORG. Searching for its name in English no significant third party coverage. I google translated the first few google news hits for its Chinese name and they don't appear to be in-depth. Would reconsider if someone did more thorough Chinese searches. LibStar (talk) 05:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Coresystems

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A decade after the last AfD and the company doesn't seem any more notable under WP:NCORP than it did then. Brandon (talk) 06:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Previously at AFD so Soft Deletion is not an option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: An article about a company, originally created by an account blocked as a sockpuppet. The 2015 AfD attracted minimal attention. Since then, the company has been split. Taking this article's topic to be the "SAP add-ons, consulting and reselling" residue, searches find this publicity piece regarding their InsightLoop pivot to AI (using the same words added to the article by an IP), but I am not seeing the coverage needed to demonstrate attained notability. AllyD (talk) 06:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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120 Bahadur

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Film is scheduled to be released a year from now and just started filming. Majority of sources are announcements or press releases. CNMall41 (talk) 02:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep my vote is for keep, kindly understand that there are many Hollywood and Bollywood movies that are upcoming in 2025 some are more than a year away yet many already have established wiki pages on them such The Accountant 2, F1, Now You See Me 3, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jolly LLB 3, and more the list is endless. The information current available on the film 120 Bahadur is good enough to create a wiki page and as time progress and more info is available the wiki page will definitely grow with time. Moreover it is a film about a historically significant event. So the wiki page deserve a place with other films that are up for release in 2025. Bonadart (talk) 05:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument seems to fall under WP:OSE which is not something that can be used to support notability. Can you point out which references are specifically significant coverage that would count towards notability? The ones I see do not but will look at any you provide in case there is something I missed. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i am in no mood to argue, my contention is if The Accountant 2, Now You See Me 3, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jolly LLB 3 which are pure fiction can have well established wiki page, then 120 Bahadur which is based on real life and a immensely historical and significant event if you may think of, also deserves a place, and if you want to talk of capturing space in that case i think this page doesnt even grab a space more than tip of safety pin out of whole wiki sphere. Bonadart (talk) 04:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I am in no mood to argue" - This is a discussion, not an argument. It does sound like maybe you should back away if you are not in the mindspace to discuss. I will reiterate that everything you stated, including in the reply above, would fall under WP:OSE.--CNMall41 (talk) 04:59, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could be draftified, or redirected, but please don't delete.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the history it previously was. Creator objected to the draft and moved it back to mainspace. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see from page history that the page was moved to draft but it was moved back to mainspace but I am giving benefit of doubt that Bonadart will accept the consensus by the closer, if it ends with draftify and not move it back to mainspace till the film gets significant coverage likely after post-production. RangersRus (talk) 23:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. WP:TOOSOON. Sources are announcements and unveiling of the look and is in pre-production with cast and crew not confirmed yet. No significant coverage. RangersRus (talk) 13:22, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
TOOSOON - then what will say or opine about The Accountant 2, F1, Now You See Me 3, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jolly LLB 3, and more; all these films are 6 months to 1 year away yet they have established wiki pages. most of the crew of the film 120 bahadur are already on board as for cast the film is centered around Shaitan Singh Bhati who is played by Farhan Akhtar which is decided, as for others the cast hasnt been declared but may be revealed pretty soon, as for shooting it has already started as declared. So in all sense and purpose much of the info in wiki page is valid, and so deserves to be in live space. Bonadart (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You should not bring other pages to discussion on this AFD. Draftify is because the film is too early with no significant coverage and has not made it to post-production. RangersRus (talk) 22:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Even this article is covered by the press release, like most articles that are edited by the creator of this article. There is a risk that it may be a COI (I will investigate the case and come back with details).--Dmitry Bobriakov (talk) 21:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. I think it is futile to Draftify this article if the content creator is going to immediately move it back to main space so I'd like to see some assurances from them about this. A Redirect was also mentioned but it's not clear what the target article would be.
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thanks for keeping the discussion alive

my 3 points

1. with all due respect ' if the content creator is going to immediately move it back to main space ' is bit harsh, please understand it takes time and effort to create a page, lot more to develop it. i have no issue if a article is deleted or kept in draft but it should always be done after thorough discussion, once consensus is reached why will any one have any problem, certainly not me.

2. regarding this page as I said earlier, agreed that this film is about a year away but so are movies like The Accountant 2, Now You See Me 3, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jolly LLB 3 but all these films have well established pages already, my point is these films are based on fiction where as this film '120 Bahadur' is based on reality and facts, so it deserves a space.

3. as for sources anyone include better sources if anyone can find.

thanks

Bonadart (talk) 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Hey, Liz, maybe Excel Entertainment would be a good redirect target. However, regardless of the delete or redirect I would recommend protecting the title due to what you say about someone who is likely going to just remove it and recreate the article. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I still do not see any consensus but I'm not ready to close this as No Consensus yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. We can always simply protect the page in mainspace or require that the draft pass AfC. -- asilvering (talk) 05:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think there would be complaints for a "requirement" that an editor make use of AFC unless a) there are COI issues or b) the draft is of an article that was deleted through an AFD. There are a lot of experienced editors who view AFC as completely optional. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taoguang Yanghui

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This article should be moved to draft as it still needs much work. At present, it is a rough translation and remains very essay-like. Amigao (talk) 01:07, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the subject is notable and well referenced. It isn’t a rough translation at all, and while I agree it is essay-like, that can easily be remedied in mainspace by any editor who cares to do so. Mccapra (talk) 04:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as no proper deletion rationale has been stated. As @Mccapra says this article is notable and the references are plentiful. Deletion is not cleanup and the article should be given some time to grow (or maybe contract a bit...).
@Amigao you didn't notify the article creator on their talk page. I've gone ahead and done that. Oblivy (talk) 07:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Using AI to Protect NC Healthcare Systems

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An essay, presumably written by a college class. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:GNG by failing test of WP:NOT. Honestly there should be a CSD category for "ill-conceived class assignment." Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971 Or, perhaps more seriously, "blatant essay," which this would fall under.

AtSymbolEveryone: Rest assured, the university and WikiEdu staff surrounding this article have been notified about this AfD. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On New Page Review, I have seen a reasonable number of essays masquerading as articles produced for a class assignment. They've often gone unreviewed long enough that they can be PRODded without objection. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971 I don't use PROD for new page patrol, seeing how I've never been able to use it in that context without the creator objecting. It's a good thing, I suppose, that you found a loophole to that. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Seems like WP:FORUM. Takipoint123 (talk) 03:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious delete but this is a common issue with these college classes and I strongly believe that enrolled students should not be able to move assignments into mainspace without going through WP:AFC. Esolo5002 (talk) 03:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Esolo5002 Unfortunately, AfC might take too long for a college course. I suspect we don't notice most college courses that go through WikiEdu (such as this one) because they do a substantially better job...or, at least, whatever it is they do doesn't require an entire article to be deleted.

Of course, perhaps there should better controls of how college-related userspace drafts get moved into mainspace, nevertheless. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This does not appear to be an attempt to write an encyclopedia article. McYeee (talk) 03:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Tim Myers (footballer)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Avar-Kabardian campaign (1618)

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This is a (possible, but not assured) WP:HOAX. Most sources are offline and, those that aren't, are broken links. At least two of the sources don't appear to exist at all (or at least in any database like Worldcat, etc.). I approved this via WP:AFC based on a background check that accidentally conflated this campaign with what, on further investigation, was an entirely different event.

The new editor who submitted this also submitted another article related to a battle which I just rejected at AFC, after being unable to confirm that some of the sources even existed, let alone supported the content. Note my comments there [1]. Chetsford (talk) 02:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Update: I have blocked the author of this article. Chetsford (talk) 05:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ri Myong-jun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to 2007 FIFA U-17 World Cup squads#North Korea as WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 02:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Julie Breathnach-Banwait

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I don't believe she meets WP:AUTHOR or WP:BIO more broadly. 1 hit in google news and nothing in google books which is surprising for a writer. LibStar (talk) 01:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and augment. Part of the issue with the author is that it can be difficult to meet WP:AUTHOR when her working language is Irish, and that doesn't Google so well. I'll also point to her article in the Irish Language Wikipedia, which has clearly met inclusion criteria there. Yes - different wiki, different rules, but still ... - Alison ^talk 04:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Google Books actually does have quite a few hits, BTW - Alison ^talk 05:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Which of the google books hits would be WP:SIGCOV? LibStar (talk) 05:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relative Success with Tabatha

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Fails GNG. Most of the sources provided are www.showbuzzdaily.com . The other sources not reliable being instagram and tvguide.com LibStar (talk) 00:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – while there is some coverage (see this, this, this), it often borders on tabloid-y and focuses on the star as much as, if not more than, the program. It should be mentioned at Tabatha Coffey#Television as it currently is, but a standalone article seems unwarranted. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]