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Was not able to edit this page

I wanted to add a wikilink to this article, but found that it is locked from editing. Please fix this ridiculous situation! 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Due to persistent vandalism the page is semi-protected and can be edited only by auto-confirmed users. You can become one, but in the meantime if you state here which wikilink you want inserted, another user can add it if appropriate. Sbishop (talk) 06:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@173.88.246.138: you could become an autoconfirmed user if you create an account and made 10 edits after 4 days. QiuLiming1 (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

_Subscript 213.3.38.108 (talk) 08:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with Bob

The wording of this section suggests that Tchiakovsky’s letters penned after Bob’s suicide were revealing. Tchaikovsky in fact died nearly 20 years before the suicide of Bob. 2604:3D09:1887:B000:4141:EB9:FAF1:6BBF (talk) 17:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is confusing. 73.141.78.51 (talk) 17:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've swapped the order of the last two clauses in that sentence, which I believe removes the anachronistic implication. Matt Gies (talk) 19:13, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1893 Portrait

Should we use it? It was made the same year (albeit before) he died and I think it is the only painting of him made in his lifetime. Wikieditor662 (talk) 06:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What makes it better than the current high-quality photograph? Aza24 (talk) 15:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say it has to be in the lead (although perhaps that is an option), I just pointed out the option to add it to the article - perhaps at around the time soon before he died Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a nice painting, and rather frequently reproduced. This article is rather-below FA standard and will need heavy revision at some point. For instance, I just trimmed some excessive images and there's still no place for the painting. We should keep this on the back burner, pending article expansion. Aza24 (talk) 21:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Number of portraits

The number of photographs was overdoing it. But I do regret the loss of some of them. Maybe being a simple soul I like to think about people as having recongisable faces. And for that reason I regret the loss of some close associates: Chakovskiy's wife, the very importanat Nadyezhda von Meck, whose husband had made a fortune from the railway line that took Ukrainian wheat to RUssia, etc.

Could we have some of these pictures back please? Foiled circuitous wanderer (talk) 15:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you mean, Tchaikovsky's wife is still there (personal life section), as is Nadyezhda von Meck (opera composer section). Aza24 (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]