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On 6 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine to Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The result of the discussion was moved.

Islamic republic of iran

The article mentioned to islamic regime in iran which is incorrect at all.pls replace that with islamic rebublic of iran. Ert141 (talk) 17:49, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what's incorrect about referring to the government of Iran as a regime and Islamic? -- Beland (talk) 03:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the Sources are Israeli

What's up with that? For example, the press truck incident is from an Israeli source. How can I trust this article? It's the same Israel who said Iran would bomb the 2022 World Cup, yet the World Cup ended peacefully. Israeli newspapers are not trustworthy.

Did you not find enough content from other sources? Nothing to write about? Moses Alkadhem (talk) 16:43, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Moses Alkadhem: If you're talking about the June 2007 attack, I see the Jerusalem Post and Human Rights Watch cited. If you're saying the government of Israel was predicting an Iranian World Cup bombing, TJP is independent from the government and as far as a I know has a reputation as a reliable source. If you have evidence that TJP is not a reliable source, you might want to start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources. I see a few previous discussions were mentioned at Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources/Perennial sources/Archive 8#The Jerusalem Post. Of course we would take their country of origin into account when looking for bias, as we would do with newspapers from any country, but this does not mean they are unreliable when simply reporting facts. -- Beland (talk) 03:06, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the right subpage is Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, and actually there's already a thread there at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Jerusalem Post. -- Beland (talk) 03:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 April 2023

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Add the Active Region “Jenin camp” Since the Jenin brigades have taken control over it. 188.161.241.250 (talk) 19:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 02:24, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 17:48, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine → Palestinian Islamic Jihad – Move to clear WP:COMMONNAME. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:30, 4 May 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 16:10, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see that there was a brief discussion on the talk page about 11 months ago which indicates that the name change might not be uncontroversial. A full discussion might be in order. – robertsky (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Brief indeed, with just two comments, both aligning on the notion of it being the WP:COMMONNAME, but one mulling whether there may be some cause for confusion - unsubstantiated, however, it hardly competes with policy. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:25, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But there was some discussion, hence it is a WP:PCM, hence it should go to a full WP:RM. I'm not objecting to the move though. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:07, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Support: Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) is demonstrably more common. 〜 Festucalex • talk 12:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support Per nom PalauanReich^🗣️ 13:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Note

Website out of use, move please; Dares of operation formar error "1981-present" (no space needed) 93.140.249.63 (talk) 05:53, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's spaces because it's "October 1981" not just "1981", per MOS:DATERANGE. –CWenger (^ • @) 16:03, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic fundamentalism

Different sources and books describing PIJ as Islamic fundamentalist: ^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]^[10] Bakbik1234 (talk) 00:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont really have a problem including that, but we do already include Islamism, and we dont actually discuss their domestic political beliefs really at all in the article. That should probably be corrected, but I dont personally think its an issue adding Islamic fundamentalism to it. Would probably get rid of Islamic nationalism though. nableezy - 01:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Starved of Justice" (PDF). Amnesty International. 2012. The PIJ is a fundamentalist Islamic terrorist organization, striving to establish "an Islamic caliphate under Shariah Law" through terrorism.
^ "Islamic Fundamentalism in the West Bank and Gaza". March 1994. fundamentalist organizations Muslim Brotherhood (Hamas) and Islamic Jihad
^ "What is Palestinian Islamic Jihad?". Jewish Unpacked. 2 January 2024. A fundamentalist Islamist organization, PIJ rejects the Oslo Accords and a two-state solution, seeking the destruction of Israel
^ "What is Hamas, who are its top leadership? A deep dive". India Today. 12 October 2023. At the time, Hamas's purpose was to counter Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), another Islamist fundamentalist militant organisation
^ "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" (PDF). 6 February 2004. fundamentalist Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas
^ "ASSAD'S KEY EXPORT: TERROR". New York Post. 5 April 2007. fundamentalist Palestinian Islamic Jihad
^ "Palestinian Islamic Jihad". Parliament of Australia. The PIJ is a Sunni fundamentalist group
^ "The Palestinian Islamic Jihad". ITIC. Inspired by the Islamic Revolution in Iran, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad has a radical fundamentalist Sunni Muslim ideology.
^ "The World Almanac of Islamism: 2011". 27 October 2011. fundamentalist Palestinian Islamic Jihad
^ "Israel Yearbook on Human Rights, Volume 45". 2015. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad ("PIJ") is a fundamentalist organisation that developed out of the Islamic Jihad in Egypt, a radical branch of the Muslim Brotherhood

Flag

Since the flag was deleted for violating copyright I think it might be a good idea to create an infobox icon like with Hezbollah. Charles Essie (talk) 19:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

there are more allies

It only states in this article that the only nonstate allies are hamas and hesbollah, but does not mention groups like, PFLP, DFLP, almujahiden brigades, jibril brigades, salah adin brigades, ansar allah and many others, they had publicly supported and conducted operations with all of these groups that are listed, please someone add them Theman1284 (talk) 08:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Theman1284 Ok I'll try. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 15:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement

We should attempt to Improve this page by adding more information in the page, This paramilitary force has relations and are allies of other paramilitary forces and resistance groups, We should add that information. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Starved of Justice" (PDF). Amnesty International. 2012. The PIJ is a fundamentalist Islamic terrorist organization, striving to establish "an Islamic caliphate under Shariah Law" through terrorism.

[2] "Islamic Fundamentalism in the West Bank and Gaza". March 1994. fundamentalist organizations Muslim Brotherhood (Hamas) and Islamic Jihad

[3] "What is Palestinian Islamic Jihad?". Jewish Unpacked. 2 January 2024. A fundamentalist Islamist organization, PIJ rejects the Oslo Accords and a two-state solution, seeking the destruction of Israel

[4] "What is Hamas, who are its top leadership? A deep dive". India Today. 12 October 2023. At the time, Hamas's purpose was to counter Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), another Islamist fundamentalist militant organisation

[5] "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" (PDF). 6 February 2004. fundamentalist Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas

[6] "ASSAD'S KEY EXPORT: TERROR". New York Post. 5 April 2007. fundamentalist Palestinian Islamic Jihad

[7] "Palestinian Islamic Jihad". Parliament of Australia. The PIJ is a Sunni fundamentalist group

[8] "The Palestinian Islamic Jihad". ITIC. Inspired by the Islamic Revolution in Iran, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad has a radical fundamentalist Sunni Muslim ideology.

[9] "The World Almanac of Islamism: 2011". 27 October 2011. fundamentalist Palestinian Islamic Jihad

[10] "Israel Yearbook on Human Rights, Volume 45". 2015. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad ("PIJ") is a fundamentalist organisation that developed out of the Islamic Jihad in Egypt, a radical branch of the Muslim Brotherhood

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