Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MSC Armonia (ship)

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The result of the debate was KEEP. dbenbenn | talk 14:14, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

MSC Armonia (ship)

Specs of a cruise ship. While I understand the reasoning behind articles with specs on military ships, what exactly is the purpose of this one? The ship is googleworthy but I haven't found something notable happening on the ship. Radiant! 12:34, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

Delete if not turned into an encyclopedic article (if that's even possible). -R. fiend 15:50, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. It's a real cruise ship. That's all the notability that's required.--Gene_poole 00:38, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If it was a military ship, I could see that. But a commercial cruise ship? There must be tens of thousands of them. Delete unless notability is shown. DaveTheRed 01:14, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Q: Since when are military ships more important that non-military ships? A: Since never.--Gene_poole 05:43, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Military ships can be and are decisive in winning wars. Cruise ships enable people to have nice vacation slides. Hmmmm, which is more notable...? DaveTheRed 08:00, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also, a lot of people are interested in all things military, and information on it, and replaying battles, etc. Nobody much is interested in all things related to cruise ships, or replaying their trajectory, or anything. Delete. Radiant! 09:01, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

Are you serious with that comment? There are tens of thousands of avid cruise ship afficianados in the world, who frequently spend hundreds (if not thousands) of $$$ on collecting memorabilia and reading the hundreds of books on the subject over their lifetimes. I really have to wonder what rock it is that some people spend their lives under when I see wildly uninformed nonsense like the above being peddled here as if it were fact. Oh, and by the way, keep, obviously. --Centauri 10:16, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Keep and merge into MSC Italian Cruises. The information is worth keeping but highly unlikely to ever stand on its own as an article. - RedWordSmith 05:50, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
- On further thought, I like this idea better. Merge with MSC Italian Cruises. DaveTheRed 20:19, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
What RedWordSmith said. Right now, what we have isn't much more than the technical specs but they would certainly be worth putting in a real article. It should be retitled as MSC Armonia in the meantime. Given the cost, complexity and relative rarity of cruise ships, I believe they're more than encyclopedic. Many are promoted worldwide. In fact, I saw a couple docked in Puerto Vallarta that were absolute leviathans. I don't know which ships they were, but I can tell you they were a lot more substantial than the average Pokémon character. :^) - Lucky 6.9 18:23, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep or merge cruise ships and similar leviathans. Kappa 11:02, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Weak delete. Should someone bother to write a proper article on a cruise ship I'd proably vote to keep, but this short list of specs isn't an article. -- Infrogmation 21:28, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Delete. It's only a list of the ship's measures! --Neigel von Teighen 21:30, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Comment. A notable ship, like a notable person, should have a discoverable birth-date. Sure, some cruise ships are notable b/c they were the largest of the time, or the first to have some unusual feature, or at least peripherally involved in some historical event. Show me something like that about this one, and I'll vote to keep; otherwise, merge with the line. --BD2412 01:58, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep - David Gerard 11:00, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Cruise ships can be encyclopedic. —Xezbeth 15:22, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

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