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Text and/or other creative content from Tony Kenning was copied or moved into Def Leppard with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Lead vs. rhythm guitarists

All four of the articles about the band's guitarists characterize their subject as either a lead (Collen and Willis) or rhythm (Campbell and Clark) guitarist. This article and every other source I've read does not make the distinction. Is that an actual distinction worth making? - Immigrant laborer (talk) 00:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Immigrant laborer: I think that's a good point, and a distinction worth making in the article. As someone who cares a lot about who does what in what bands, the difference between lead and rhythm guitar roles is meaningful to me. -- Cloud atlas (talk) 01:41, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cloud atlas: I was actually thinking the other way (removing the distinctions from the individual articles), but I posted here because it seemed a more central place. - Immigrant laborer (talk) 02:10, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Immigrant laborer: interesting. I guess to clarify, I think that distinguishing between whether someone is a lead or rhythm guitarist is a distinction worth making in Wikipedia, if the distinction exists in reality. For instance, Izzy Stradlin and Malcolm Young are identified as rhythm guitarists in their articles, and in the articles about Guns N' Roses and AC/DC (their respective bands). That said, I don't know whether those members of Def Leppard that you mentioned are, in fact, lead or rhythm guitarists. Not every band has the distinction. For instance, Judas Priest had two lead guitarists. -- Cloud atlas (talk) 02:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As credited on all their albums, Def Leppard does not have a "lead guitarist" and "Rhythm guitarist". Both are guitarists that share rhythm and lead parts. DLManiac (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Def Leppard Discography

I do not see the Album "Retro Active" on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelfeathers1 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Angelfeathers1: It is in the discography article. Compilation albums are not typically listed in the main article for an artist. ^electricsBahiagrass_everywhere 16:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, as a compilation album, it is not listed under the studio albums. DLManiac (talk) 20:19, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merger discussion

I propose that Hysteria – The Def Leppard Story be merged into this page. It's been tagged as unsourced for over a decade, and if the WP:OR were removed there would be virtually nothing left. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 10:33, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support in general, but omit [most of] the unsourced details in the transfer. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:51, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No dissent so I've been bold: if anyone has any subsequent objections, they can revisit the issue here. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead overly detailed

The lead dwells too much on the chart performance without describing the overall impact of the albums. Some of these details are relevant but should be moved to the main body under each respective album. Objections? Leoseliv (talk) 13:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Makes complete sense to me, if you're still around and willing to do it. The lede should be a concise intro to the article, nothing more. – AndyFielding (talk) 09:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the Lead needs shortening including chart position details that you mention. FYI, I just tagged the Lead as being too long. -Fnlayson (talk) 01:51, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Soft Disagree. The article overall is very long, and the length and detail in the lead are warranted. The kind of detail may indeed be debatable. JackTheSecond (talk) 14:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original lineup

According to Brittanica the original lineup was Pete Willis, Rick Savage, Joe Elliott, and Tony Kenning. (source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Def-Leppard)

In his book My Time With Def Leppard and Other Bands (Ranmoor Park, 2021, ISBN 978-1999695415) Kennings affirms that he was one of the founding members. In an interview with Howard Pressmann broadcast on BBC Radio Sheffield on 7 July 2022 he recounted how he reluctantly left the band, due to family circumstances, sixteen months after it was formed. 88.142.204.148 (talk) 14:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does this make sense?

"As one of the world's best-selling music artists, Def Leppard have sold more than 100 million records worldwide"

I'm not sure putting it like that really makes sense. It almost sounds as if they were best-selling artists before they sold 100 million records. I changed it to "sold more than 100 million records worldwide, making them one of the world's best-selling music artists", but it got reverted.

Does anybody agree/disagree with me on this? Dornwald (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree, the quoted text listed at the top is fine and does not have to be 'corrected' imo. -Fnlayson (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Savage article missing

Apparently, Rick Savage’s article is completely missing and always redirects to the main Def Leppard article. Anyone know how to fix this? 66.56.173.11 (talk) 01:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone redirected it to the Def Leppard page. I restored it. They can put it through AfD if they want the article deleted. Angryapathy (talk) 14:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]