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World Bank and IMF

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I know Palast has done some pretty extensive reporting on the World Bank and IMF, such as in his book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. Does anyone want to take it upon themselves to add a section on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.207.49 (talk) 18:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have to Mention

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We should mention how many americans love this reporter. Also, where his websites are, what funding he gets, and his matter of fact attitude that most believe turned extinct long ago.. Ill work on getting the images. 65.101.15.45 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Clean up

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This article has a lot of problems. It makes many claims and has few sources, and often uses the subject as the source for these claims. This article needs a major clean up. — Steven Andrew Miller (talk) 20:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To Steven Andrew Miller: Do you just not like this article? It is not difficult to prove that Palast is a reporter for the BBC(done), that he is a reporter for the guardian(done), or that both the best democracy money can buy(done)(2nd) and Armed Madhouse(15th)(unneccesary given the claim is merely new york times best selling author, however:[1], now DONE) have made it to the NYT list. I have removed your request for notes from the Chicago boys comment. Having shown Palast has an MBA from UChicago from 1976 I demand you prove that he had *no* contact with the chicago boys, despite his and the article's claim that he did. Also I suspect if I could read portugese then: [sistemas.usp.br/atena/atnCurriculoLattesMostrar?codpes=76141] would refer to a palast lecture.

Finally - there are four wikiable people linked in this article, three of their articles have references to six degrees. by my count only one of these degrees is sourced

Jeb_Bush - BA University of Texas(Austin): NOT SOURCED

John_Kerry - BA from YALE: NOT SOURCED, JD at Boston College Law School: NOT SOURCED

Felipe_Calderón - bachelor's degree in law from the Escuela Libre de Derecho: NOT SOURCED, master's degree in economics from the Instituto Tecnológico Autónomo de México: NOT SOURCEDMaster of Public Administration at Kennedy: SOURCED

what exactly is the standard here(Aside from you don't like this article so it's gotta' be wrong.) Jethro 82 05:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS. I have now removed the disputed claim. The article could perhaps use some clean up but asides from his lecturing or lack thereof I don't see any remaining 'fact' tags. I've left the clean up request, because I'm not sure specifically what it refers to.

Jethro, I do not like or dislike the article. Most of the items I asked for cites on, you found. Bravo! We should source as much as we can on Wikipedia. Just because one article does not cite its' sources does not mean another should not. — Steven Andrew Miller (talk) 02:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the cleanup tag from the article, because the points raised by the user that demanded the cleanup have been attended to. Plorp 06:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Come by my town today and count the strip malls and fluorescent signs directing you to, "Bagels Hot! Cars Like NEW No Down-Pay ent! Dog Burger!", where corn once grew."

Is Down-Pay ent meant to be like that? I was going to put the 'm' in but it's a quote so I thought that I'd ask first. -- Ams80 14:32 Mar 19, 2003 (UTC)

It might have originally been meant to indicate a letter missing from a shabby sign. However, I have no idea how it read in Palast's original text. - 3 january 2006

2000 florida election

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in your book tbdmcb, why didnt Al and the demos pick up the fraud ball and run with it? you said the U.S. media didnt call while the vote count was still happening, how about anyone on the demo side?

Because it would have made them look bad. Americans don't cotton to conspiracy theories, even the ones that wind up being true.[/devil's advocate]

~Firestorm

Yes, too often, Americans still naively give politicians the benefit of the doubt. Not sure why they haven't learned yet. -01:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not that we give politicians the benefit of the doubt so much as we don't give Muckrakers and Conspiracy Theorists the benefit of the doubt. They usually prove less honest more despicable than politicians.

The text says:

"Notably, he has directed US government investigations ..."

He has not directed US government investigations. A "US government investigation" is an investigation conducted by the government of the United States, and Palast is not an official of the US government.

Ams, I deleted the "directed...investigations" phrase from the article, pending some sort of documentation. --Uncle Ed 17:44, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hey.. uhh.. does this page seem NPOV to you? Right away we have "self-proclaimed expert" and an emphasis on Palast going around *accusing* people all the time without any indication that just maybe he was right, and could have possibly *exposed* corruption. I don't know, it reads to me like it is phrased to create a picture of him as a crackpot. --kevinb9n

I have to agree with this assessment. There's not much on the veracity of his claims. I might get around to rewriting this article eventually, as I've just finished reading The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. Interestingly, despite the book's taking potshots at both major American parties, I found the book to be conservative in the aspect of gun control, in direct contrast to Michael Moore, who endorsed the book. That's just my opinion, though. Johnleemk | Talk 15:47, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I agree as well. I read Greg Palast by accident before I knew anything about him and he seems pretty legit. His credintials are pretty good, too. This article needs a re-working. Also include his spat with MP George Galloway. [2] [3] http://gnn.tv/articles/1693/The_Slime_Artist]
I also think this article has an NPOV problem, particular the repeated unsourced claims that Palast has "proven" some rather controversial notions. Redeagle688 01:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My two cents -- I don't think this article has a glaring issue as far as NPOV is concerned. I'm a liberal who has supported Palast in the past and don't have a problem with it. I do agree that it could use some additional details about what came of some of his claims, such as the Exxon Valdez, etc. And I wouldn't worry too much about him looking like some sort of whiner who goes around accusing people of things since he's an investigative journalist to begin with; that's kinda what they do. --Jon 01:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"self described expert"

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I saw someone else saying that they thought the "self described expert" corporations part was NPOV, I thought so too so I changed it to "His work frequently focuses on corporate malfeasance". I feel like that lacks punch but it works for now.

Also it would be sweet if all of those quotations were sourced.--TitaniumDreads

Quote

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Tony Blair-- "Palast's reports have not one shred of evidence." removed that, unless one of you wants to source it. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 15:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

911

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He is quoted in Researchers questioning the official account of 9/11. --Striver 01:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Valdez

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I didn’t know a good way to put the following:

Palast has also taken issue with the official story behind the grounding of the Exxon Valdez, claiming that the sobriety of the Valdez’s captian was not an issue in the accident. According to Palast the main cause of the Exxon Valdez accident in 1989 wasn't human error but was, instead due to an Exxon decision to not fix the ship's radar in order to save money. Interesting enough though, its not clear nor does Palast explain how the Raytheon Raycas radar system would have detected Bligh Reef, as radar, unlike sonar, is incapable of detecting objects under the waterline of this ship.

The idea that radar would have detected an underwater reef is a bit stupid Torturous Devastating Cudgel 16:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two things here in response: There is a light and radar reflector on the next rock inland from Bligh Reef, and the radar in question would be used to ensure that distances from shore match with what the chart indicates, hence keeping the boat on course.

NPOV: "Detention camp"?

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The article says,

On September 13, 2006, after photographing the detention camp of Hurricane Katrina refugees in Louisiana near the massive Exxon facility, the US government said that this videotaping was a threat to national security and issued a warrant for Palast's arrest.

The phrase "detention camp" seems awfully loaded. Can anyone support that use of the phrase? What is the facility officially called? The paragraph's citation link is to an article by Mr. Palast--and I think it's fair to say that he does not have a "NPOV". In any event, I think this paragraph should identify the alleged "internment camp" by its official name. Narsil 21:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since nobody's commented, is it okay if I just delete the contentious "detention camp" paragraph from the summary at the top of the article? (The somewhat less-loaded paragraph about the incident down in the "Criminal Complaint" section could remain.) If anyone does object, can you give me a link describing the actual facility, and supporting the use of the phrase "detention camp" (or, alternatively, giving its actual, official name)? Thanks much! -- Narsil 01:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Be bold. Its obviously POV and its not a major edit, so why not just get rid of it? Generally, the best option when faced with something obviously factually untrue, and editing it won't involve making major rewrites, is just to go ahead and make the change. So I've removed the loaded word so it now simply reads "camp". Feel free to go ahead and improve on my edit if you like. Lurker oi! 10:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since the "detention camp" phrase has been removed, I've removed the NPOV tag from the article as well. If there's other disputes, please just put it back. :) -- Schnee (cheeks clone) 13:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

graphic novel

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Okay, this might be the least important thing about his career, but could someone expand on this item of information (the GN)? Where did you find this out? Who are supposed to be its creators? Warren Ellis has referenced him [4] ... --h_a 22:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category: Conspiracy theorists

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I've added this category because of his stance on many issues, including 9/11. A large number of his claims have either been debunked, or strongly denied by those involved, which makes him a theorist. Although the term is pejorative, it is the standard term in use on wikipedia for these people, and until that changes is the correct one to apply to Palast. Hahahahahaoh (talk) 10:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His views on 9/11 are very much in the mainstream. If you had read anything about him on the subject, you'd know he is very clearly NOT a 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Also, exactly what claims has he made that have been debunked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.193.197.122 (talk) 20:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Criminal Complaint by the Department of Homeland Security -- What is the point of this section?

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The entire Criminal Complaint by the Department of Homeland Security section of this article is kind of pointless. No charges were filed (making the title misleading) and nothing happened other than some words being exchanged. What are we really adding by including this information? Bonewah (talk) 19:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, this is all sourced to Palast's blog, per wp:rs and wp:sps i am going to remove this section.

Studied with the Chicago boys?

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The article lead says he studied with the Chicago boys but the citation does not back that claim up. A quick google search yields the same lack of confirmation. I am removing that claim pending a good source confirming it. Bonewah (talk) 19:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

criticism section / peak oil

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More than 3 years after the 2006 articles by Palast denying peak oil, and criticism by not only Richard Heinberg (as the article notes) but also many others, has Palast, with the wealth of evidence since that time, changed or at least modified his former dismissal of peak oil? If so that would make a valuable addition to the article. --Harel (talk) 02:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oil as a (non-)reason for the Iraq war

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Found this via reddit: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-iraqi-war-wasnt-waged-for-oil-greg-palast (citing a state document revealing that the oil was meant to stay in the ground, not be freed, in order for oil prices to stay high). It may also belong to Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

--88.68.170.234 (talk) 19:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

JK Rowling - alternative ending to "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows"

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"citation needed" has been flagged under the statement " Neither JK Rowling nor her affiliates have made any claim regarding the validity of this article".

How does one cite nothing been said? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg hill (talk • contribs) 11:33, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If these events received any kind of coverage in third party sources, Rowling's silence could easily have been reported. JohnInDC (talk) 11:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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