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On what basis is fair use asserted? I suspect it is OK but remind you of the strict requirement to explain specifically the basis on which fair use is asserted otherwise you may face deletion of the image. [1] Copyright is an important Wikipedia issue. Reithy 01:48, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

Fair use rationale isn't really used anymore. It's an old policy. Anyway, album covers are generally accepted as fair use because the article is informative about the album and doesn't compete with the album. Rhobite 01:59, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

I have indulged your frivolous request anyway, because I'm a geniunely nice guy. Rhobite 02:03, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

It is absolutely still the policy of Wikipedia, it is old policy indeed. Yes it is the Copyright Act. I am not sure it is old policy works as a defense to breach of copyright claim. Might try it one of the these days. The image does not look low resolution to me and I wonder why there are no other album covers. I think a credible administrator should look at this issue. As for being a nice guy, I will leave others to speculate on that. At this stage, I am reserving judgment. Reithy 02:11, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

I further encourage you to read the Fair Use page I posted for you and to read the University checklist which certainly made me think the image may be not a fair use. Reithy 02:11, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

I encourage you to imgvio it then. Rhobite 02:21, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

I would rather work with you to ensure the copyright issue is resolved. I will send an email to the record company, if you like to ask whether they agree with you. Reithy 02:23, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

United States fair use policy permits such images to be used in original works (such as a Wikipedia article), for non profit purposes, and where the use will have negligible impact on the artist or record company. It is sufficiently low-res because it is smaller than the album cover itself would be on a CD, making it impractical to reproduce. Rdsmith4— Dan | Talk 02:38, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thank you very much. Reithy 02:40, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

Fair use enough! omg roflmao hahahahaahaahahahha lol AlexanderWinston 02:43, 2004 Nov 5 (UTC)

Fairly used nuff. Reithy 03:16, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

A lot of what I am hearing is a result of ignorance of copyright law. The only person who knows what they are talking about is Dannyboy. Please go and read the Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ - James and I wrote it so as to avoid these arguements. →Raul654 03:39, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

Fair use tests under US Law:

The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; Is it a for profit competitor or not? Is it for criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research? Is the use transformative (of a different nature to the original publication)? The nature of the copyrighted work; Is it a highly original creative work with lots of novel ideas or a relatively unoriginal work or listing of facts? Is the work published (to a non-restricted audience) - if not, fair use is much less likely. The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and How much of the original work are you copying? Are you copying more or less than the minimum required for your purpose - the more you exceed this, the less likely the use is to be fair? Are you reducing the quality or originality, perhaps by using a reduced size version? The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. Does this use hurt or help the original author's ability to sell it? Did they intend to or were they trying to make the work widely republished (as with a press release)? Are you making it easy to find and buy the work if a viewer is interested in doing so?

Correct. Pretty much everything on Wikipedia qualifies as educational, and Wikimedia itself is nonprofit. So it really comes down to - is what we are doing with the copyrighted work something that could hurt the marketability of the original work? And the answer is no - no one is not going to buy the album because we are using it on the related article. Your objection is nonsense. Please stop wasting everyone's time. →Raul654 04:45, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)