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Given current Wikipedia policy to merge/redirect all fictional stubs, I'm being BOLD and redirecting this stub back to Narnia.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by P Ingerson (talk • contribs) 11:24, 3 April 2005‎ (UTC)[reply]

Eight years later another editor has revived the proposal to delete this article. I agree.

This page should not redirect to Narnia, the main article, but to the section List of places in The Chronicles of Narnia#Cair Paravel, and that is primarily where appropriate content should be merged --perhaps including the Disney image, as the List will benefit from one.

We have other Places articles that should be deleted, certainly including Miraz's Castle. A quick tour show that this one and Lantern Waste alone carry images from the film; neither article covers the portrayal in film.

--P64 (talk) 15:02, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support as the editor who proposed deletion and would be quite content to see the material here merged. DonIago (talk) 16:13, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of the name

Have any citable sources given an idea of what "Paravel" means? (assuming "cair" is connected to caer==fort?) The Wednesday Island 02:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious too. It sounds kind of French to me, which is cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.233.157 (talk) 07:07, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An anonymous editor added that "Cair Paravel" meant "Lower court" in Old English, which is false, neither word exists in Old English (and cited source is unreliable). I am deleting this statement. "Cair" is almost certainly a variant of Welsh caer meaning "castle, citadel, fortified city". "Paravel" could be a variant of "paravail" which is Middle English from Old French meaning "lowest, bottom of a chain of authority" (opposite of "paramount"), but that meaning doesn't fit. It could be being used to mean simply "inferior" (to God/Aslan) as proposed by the source that falsely connected it to Old English, but that's questionable. The second half, "-avel", could also mean "apple", as in Welsh afel/Cornish avel, which would connect it to "Avalon" (Ynys Afallon: "Island of Apples"). Or it could simply have been chosen as a poetic sound combination with "Cair". Aidan (talk) 23:55, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Inspired by Dunluce Castle?

I have seen a number of tourist information leaflets (like this) claiming Lewis based Cair Paravel on the ruins of Dunluce Castle, on the Antrim coastline in Northern Ireland. Is this just a commonly held opinion or is there good evidence that C.S. used it as a basis? Catriona McM (talk) 15:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I personally have never heard that, it may indeed be true. Either way, if you can find a your bureau guide or something as a reliable source,it could be added as "Some claims[ref]..." Random 89 06:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It may be true, as he based the landscape of Narnia on some mountain range in Northern Ireland, I forget which. Very vague, I know, but it shows that some elements in Narnia were based on Northern Ireland. TopGearFreak ^Talk 18:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]