Talk:Home

The big debate for morons

Lemme put it this way - is a hime somewhere you Live, or somewhere you stay?. You can only choose one or the other. below with your signature and on 25/12/2007 I'll check up the votes and see which wins! --Napster964 (talk) 19:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Didn't go so well. maybe calling people morons can put them off 144.139.121.190 (talk) 14:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Should that link be there? It almost seems like commercial. What other relevant things are there to a home? --unsigned

Similarly, what else can be added to home? Ideas? Gflores ^Talk 21:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually I think it's a pretty weak article at present. There is a list of quotations which is not really informative and is necessarily arbitrary, because there are so many potential quotes which have the word "home" in them. Other than that, it's really just a dictionary definition, and most dictionaries do a better job of it, giving a wider range of meanings, for example. I was trying to think of how to improve it and wondered what someone would hope to find if they looked up "home" in an encyclopedia, but I couldn't really think of an occasion where they would want to! So, to answer the question, some ideas: a more complete dictionary definition with all the shades of meaning of home; or give up and relegate the article to Wictionary; or a more serious psychological/sociological/anthropological discussion about the concept of home; or describe Home in literature, poetry and song (which might sort out the quotes a bit, as examples). Not much help I'm afraid! Bluewave 17:38, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Better?

I redid the article somewhat, not adding much information but taking out some irrelevant things like the off-topic South Park bit and making the article look nicer overall. Also added picture. --Ben Tibbetts 02:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

• Maybe add that home is a place to sleep, rest and eat?
• Maybe add that home is not only "where a person lives" but where many persons a family can live?
• Would be good with a better picture (in PNG format), that is nicer and has windows, etc...

The microsoft paint picture makes it look like an Uncyclopedia entry to me.--IMFromKathlene 22:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone write a better article fro home this one sucks. -unsigned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.253.108.13 (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I suggest to add that home is our planet. JUST simple change: "More generally, "home" may be considered to be a geographic area, such as a town, village, suburb, city, country OR PLANET." As our planet is home for everyone and everything what lives on it. Thank you. Uyazi (talk) 00:04, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Psychology

The article is self-contradictory: it says that the state of the home influences the behavior of the people in it and then says that the character of the people in the home influences the state of the home. Does the home influence its inhabitants or vice versa? Is there some sort of source for this? Theshibboleth 08:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I would say a home influences its inhabitants while the inhabitants can modify the home as they see fit. Why must it be either/or? And no, I couldn't find a source for any of that stuff, but I would think at the least that it makes sense. Maybe I'll expand the psychology section with references if I have time... I'll put this on that pesky to-do list. Ben Tibbetts 00:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Update: While it is not a citing for the idea itself, adding an implied reference to Patch Adams at least verifies the claim as being something other than original research. Now comes the question of whether it is POV or an accepted theory... I will look into this. Ben Tibbetts 20:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Two things can both influence each other. That is not necessarily a contradiction. In fact, two people can influence each other.  :-) CocoaZen (talk) 03:54, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Home. Ever felt and lived with my minimal life experience . I never felt home while im home, i felt it only when silence was there with me. Limitededition43 (talk) 16:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Images

I vote for the deletion of the image - it lacks seriousness. Vince 07:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be serious. WinterSpw (talk) 00:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Positive v Negative

It is a widely perceived idea that the word ‘home’ is always attached to the nice and safe things in ones life - of security, happiness and family orientation. However this may not always be the case. A woman whose partner is constantly beating her, a child who is being abused,a male who is having major marital problems may be fearful to go home and not subscribe to the safe and secure theory. Home can be a prison that people find themselves trapped in with no obvious way of escape except . . . homelessness. To develope this theory is this where the home influences the person? Does a child who is brought up under the abuse banner go on to use this on his or her children? Does a woman who suffers from domestic violence encourage her daughters to put up and shut up?

'Saccharine as Dorothy'

This page is relatively as saccharine as dorothy in the wizard of oz. it would greatly benefit from a more anthropological and historical analysis of the term (etymology) and concept especially as it relates in the creation of places, nations, etc. structuralist (Levi-Strauss) and post-structuralist (Kristeva, Lyotard, Deleuze) thoughts must enter.

Yes, this page needs a lot of work. Care to improve it? Go right ahead. ~ ONUnicorn (Talk / Contribs) 22:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Shreshth91

Can we block this user? in his short life time, he's become such a gigantic asshole that i feel his wikipedia editing privlidges should be revoked. just read his bio- he's an arrogant ass!

Thank you for your frank appraisal of my self. I will try to improve myself. However, please try to cool down, and return after the block as a more mature person. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 08:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Other usages

WRT use of 'home' by real-estate agents instead of 'house' - this is an empirical observation combined with a logical statement, it is not original research.Eyedubya 21:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

There's only one sentence in that portion that I really have a problem with, and that's: "Clearly this is a marketing ploy, since a house that is for sale is either someone else's home (the vendor's or its sitting tenant's) or no-one's home, but not yet the home of a prospective purchaser." Yes, it is an observation combined with a logical statement - but it's your observation and your logic, and while I agree with it completely, to me it is the very definition of original research. unsigned comment

As another example: Newton sat under an apple tree and saw that the apple fell towards the earth. He observed that the apple fell towards the center of the earth and from that proceeded to logically come up with a description of gravity. Had Wikipedia been around then, if he had come to Wikipedia and said "The apple falls. Clearly this is because of gravity." It would have been Original research. If, however, you can find something in a magazine, newspaper, book, or what-have-you that says that this is clearly a marketing ploy then you can quote that publication and source it and this article will be 1000x stronger. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 01:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Working on defining "home" in the united states - looking for contributions or suggestions

Appreciate the various threads of conversation over this term and how to explain it- am working on a project that tackles a very similar problem. Any image or prose contributions to what home means to you as a person living in the united states are sought, as well as any suggestions of other resources with the same theme. www.thehomelandsproject.com many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homelands (talk • contribs) 20:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on it. Garbagecycle (talk) 23:44, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Expansion

Okay so this article is an untagged stub which would usually be a problem in itself but i think i have just enough material to bring it up to size, being a major and broad concept, "Home" warrants a full article. Randy6767 (talk) 19:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. It should be longer. 99.224.137.2 (talk) 04:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Much longer Saturdayseven (talk) 13:17, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Top-importance or high-importance?

Should the importance rating on the WikiProject Home Living banner be top-importance rather than high-importance? It's the most vital article in the project. ANGCHENRUI ^Talk♨ 12:05, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I would agree. Saturdayseven (talk) 13:13, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well. It is about houses. Sipslice11 (talk) 18:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Famous Expression

People who work on Wikipedia, should mention the famously used expression "Home Is Where The Heart Is",

Or you should create a section that has expressions that have been mentioned about a home to expand or improve the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.153.135.44 (talk) 22:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

We would need citations to include that. Saturdayseven (talk) 13:10, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

This is very dumb! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.223.41 (talk) 15:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I have added citations to a couple of these phrases that appear in the lead. -—Kvng 22:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

External link

I admit to a bias, so I'll let others decide. I think the Home Wikia would be a good external link for this page to include. What do you think? -- CocoaZen (talk) 03:54, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

There is currently no External links section in the article and this is not a compelling enough reference to start one. -—Kvng 22:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Expansion

I think we should expand this. --108.35.232.7 (talk) 01:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2018

Please change :

Refugees from homes flee where such extreme forms of quasi-nuisance occur such as harassment and religious persecution, who may seek a sheltered housing refuge or place of asylum respectively.

Which is a clumsy and inaccurate sentence to

Refugees are people who have fled their homes due to violence or persecution. They may seek temporary housing in a shelter or they may claim asylum in another country in an attempt to relocate permanently.

Thank you. 104.163.190.29 (talk) 23:50, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done, thank you. Gulumeemee (talk) 07:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

"Private residence" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Private residence. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 15:59, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

"Private house" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Private house. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 16:00, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Avadhesh Chandra Maurya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acmweb (talk • contribs) 12:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominations#Home

A nomination is open at the above link for the article Home to become a weekly article for improvement. It would then be offered for editing to those signed up on the articles for improvement list, so please ivote if the mood hits. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Why is this page still locked???

Any particular reason? Unlock please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.11.225.249 (talk) 23:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Dual use of Spaces

This article is about dual use of spaces available at various sites like theaters, malls, warehouses, lofts, out- houses, mezzanine floors, garages.

This simply modifies the utility of spaces for just a small portion of the day/ night time.

Example situations =

• when one may have to stay away from home for work. In such cases we can comfortably use chairs of cinema halls ,
• vast spaces in warehouses, modified lofts/ mezzanines of homes or shopping areas at night.

These spaces can easily accommodate fold-able furniture / multi-functional furniture and even assembled / knock-down furniture. This can solve accommodation issues as well as a time savoir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaku Vaghela (talk • contribs) 06:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2020

"Please Change:"

A home, or domicile, is a living space used as a permanent or semi-permanent residence for an individual, family, household or several families in a tribe. It is often a house, apartment, or other building, or alternatively a mobile home, houseboat, yurt or any other portable shelter. A principle of constitutional law in many countries, related to the right to privacy enshrined in article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the inviolability of the home as an individual's place of shelter and refuge.

Homes typically provide rooms, areas, and facilities for sleeping, preparing food, eating and hygiene. Larger groups may live in a housing cooperative, nursing home, children's home, convent or any similar living arrangement or institution. A homestead also includes agricultural land and facilities for domesticated animals. Where more secure dwellings are not available, people may live in the informal and sometimes illegal shacks found in slums and shanty towns. More generally, "home" may be considered to be a geographic area, such as a town, village, suburb, city, or country.

"Which doesn't touch upon the concept of home as the wikipedia page states it should, to:"

A home, or domicile, is a space used as a permanent or semi-permanent residence for an individual, group or family. It is a fully or semi sheltered space and can have both interior and exterior aspects to it. Homes provide sheltered spaces for instance rooms, where domestic activity can be performed such as sleeping, preparing food, eating and hygiene as well as providing spaces for work and leisure such as remote working, studying and playing. Physical forms of homes can be static such as a house or an apartment, mobile such as a houseboat, trailer or yurt or digital such as virtual space. The aspect of ‘home’ can be considered across scales, from the micro scale showcasing the most intimate spaces of the individual dwelling and direct surrounding area to the macro scale of the geographic area such as town, village, city, country or planet.

A principle of constitutional law in many countries, related to the right to privacy enshrined in article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the inviolability of the home as an individual's place of shelter and refuge.

The concept of ‘home’ has been researched and theorized across disciplines - topics ranging from the idea of home, the interior, the psyche, liminal space, contested space to gender and politics. Such topics can be found in the writings of Gaston Bachelard, Jean Baudrillard, Mrs Isabella Beeton, Pierre Bourdieu, Beatriz Colomina, Le Corbusier, Mary Douglas, Diana Fuss, Dolores Hayden, Martin Heidegger, Henri Lefebvre, Edith Wharton amongst many others. Discussions of home can help better understand and challenge perceptions of self and the extension of self.

Places of residence do not necessarily correlate with associations to the home; the home is comprised of a physical space as well as an emotional and physiological relationship, where memory, comfort, activity and familiarity are some of the many important factors in the construction of home. Amongst being a space of domestic activity the home in the 21st century has appropriated new meanings with the advance of technology, therefore enabling multiple activities to be performed within a singular space. The home blurs boundaries of the domestic, the professional and the leisurely and conceptually becomes an amorphous space.

The home as a concept expands beyond residence as contemporary lifestyles and technological advances redefine the way the global population lives and works. DianaVS2 (talk) 13:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Needs expansion, lead needs more inline citations

@Opalzukor: you added the cleanup tag with the problems: "Needs expansion, lead needs more inline citations". Please read WP:LEADCITE and if there is something that truly needs a citation in the lead please tag it inline. As for the expansion, I don't think this needs to be at the top of the article because ever section needing expansion is already tagged. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:24, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to US Housing Edit-a-thon

Please join us on 13 December 2020, 12:00-14:00 EST, as we update and improve articles in Wikipedia related to housing in the United States of America. Sign up here. -- M2545 (talk) 12:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Quotations and excerpts

DMT Biscuit I think that the new additions to the articles are great, however, it would be even better if less quotations are used. It may also help to remove the excerpts and replace them with content, as doing so would increase in page size significantly. (Archival context: WP:30 kB drive). CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 11:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@CactiStaccingCrane: I certainly feel that the excerpts should be removed as they stand as redundant, obtrusive to edit and mostly irrelevant. Reduction of quotations, I find, is advisable but usually happens later on as more literature/context is added. There are also cases such as the Coke quote where the proper context requires the quote. I also err on the side of quotations for exceptional or contentious claims - such as women's place at home. DMT Biscuit (talk) 14:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Mangament

This area seems misplaced as it relates to the practical functions of a house or building entirely more so than the concept of a home. I elect to remove it but due to the boldness involved I thought it best to garner any other insights. DMT Biscuit (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Anything 182.48.88.26 (talk) 13:24, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Football

When playing football pick ball up and run down the fields 79.71.58.92 (talk) 19:01, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Els homes són uns desgraciats de merda que es creuen superiors de les dones, i si no fos per elles ells no serien aquí. 80.24.239.160 (talk) 11:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)