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Internet archive security
The recent ddos attack has taken the whole website down does the wikimedia foundation have a policy to help a third party? who we depend on majorly. And holds pretty much all of the internet content in its archives help with its combatment with the ddos attacks which are seemingly neverending and is exacerbating internet archives recent legal struggles •Cyberwolf•talk? 18:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Does WMF have a strategy for how to mirror IA's web archive if they were to go down forever? They have a couple pending lawsuits fighting with the print companies and the record companies, the results of which could prove existential for them. We are seeing this week how big a loss to WP the loss of IA would be. Carrite (talk) 20:32, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Bolder statement: WMF needs to start talking to Internet Archive NOW about taking over their Wayback Machine project. IA is headed the way of Napster and that database needs to be preserved and expanded. Wikipedia will be dramatically impacted if IA is disappeared. Carrite (talk) 03:37, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- The biggest problem for Wikipedia is that all of the archived Wayback Machine external links are down at the moment, and will not return until the ongoing security problems are fixed. It isn't ideal for Wikipedia to rely on a third party for this service, because it has no control over it. As for taking over the whole of the Internet Archive, this is probably outside the scope of the Wikimedia Foundation. It would also be controversial, because copyright holders dislike the Internet Archive and think that there is far too much copyrighted material on it.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:07, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wayback Machine is the main target, not the books project and music project, which have copyvio issues writ large. Carrite (talk) 19:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- The Wayback Machine is tremendously helpful to the project by preserving old links to reliable sources that are no longer available. Thus I would suggest that helping it would fall well within the WMF's tax-exempt purpose. Agree that it has no relationship to the book-archiving branch and has never been accused of copyright infringement. Coretheapple (talk) 16:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Jimbo. You know what I miss?
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Buffone.jpg/220px-Buffone.jpg)
You -- or somebody -- having effective reserve powers.Because, really, there ought to be an ombudsman. A lot of functional organizations have one. Inspector General in governments, that sort of thing.
Editing Wikipedia is really important to me. It's more than just a hobby, it's therapy. It's more than just therapy, it's... well, never mind. And I'm not the only one, that I know.
Sure that's my problem and mine alone (I guess), but I mean after all we are running an "attractive nuisance" here for that sort of thing. Didn't mean to, but people do a lot of things that have effects they didn't mean, and one can't necessarily wash their hands of them always.
And I mean the uh personnel reassignment people here can be ruthless. (I get it, we're a big publishing operation not a tea party.) Anyways, if I'm ever shown the door here -- you never know -- I figured I could maybe email you and beg for mercy. But I guess not.
I'm not asking for any solution to this. There isn't one I don't think. I mean, the Foundation can't help, politically that just wouldn't work. So, I'm just saying.
But! Don't want to be a downer here, so to end on a good note, there was an editor a little while back, self-admittedly a fair bit along on the autism spectrum, got himself into (legit) trouble with obsessing over a particular subject... you know how people can get. Legit he was out of chances. He'd been topic banned but he just couldn't stay away from the topic. He was a goner. But, he pretty much grovelled for mercy on the grounds that editing the Wikipedia was basically keeping him going. And it worked. It worked. We worked out to let him stay, keep in touch with him, got the admins on board with that, finally got thru to him that he needed to obsess about something else, and he's still here. Man, I was proud of the Wikipedia that day. But it doesn't necessarily work out like that. Hence a catcher in the rye would be nice. Just saying. Herostratus (talk) 06:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say you have well-staked out your position as Wikipedia's classic Gadfly, so I hope that you aren't shown the door just yet. Andre🚐 22:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Making fly-by-night antisemitic insinuations about fellow-editors is not what Socratic minds do.Nishidani (talk) 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has numerous functionaries of various sorts. See:
- Andrew🐉(talk) 09:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Functionaries. God save us from functionaries.
And don't mind Nishidani there. He's just my imaginary friend, he likes to follow me around apparently. It's good! Maybe we all should all have someone like that, mnmh. Kind of like that king who had a guy follow him around to remind him he wasn't so great. There are a couple of admins here I can think of who could benefit from that service maybe. I'm available Tuesdays and Friday evenings. Nah, just kidding. Hey cavemen complained about the people modding their fires I'm sure. The mods are mostly pretty fine, the problems are structural but hey the thing works, people (like me) just have to grumble. Don't mind us.
No, I just materialized Nishidani so I could make another point, which... is too long, maybe I'll write an article or something, so skip it, I'll leave it at just my previous point, sorry for taking your time and space. Herostratus (talk) 03:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
For the interested, the Delhi High Court has an opinion on that particular WP-article: Delhi High Court slams Wikipedia for refusal to divulge identity of those who edited ANI's page
"The Court also took strong objection against Wikipedia allowing a page titled 'Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation' to be published in relation to the present case. ... "You are disclosing something about a sub-judice matter," the Court remarked."
Make of that what you will. More coverage:[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
The Boston Globe, for the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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