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I have the feeling that this article doesn't describe Theory X and Theory Y correctly, but I'm to lazy to check it now. Anyone? -- till we *) 00:45, Aug 22, 2003 (UTC)

I've rewritten it. Partly base on the external link I've added. I'm not sure I've done it justice though.--LeeHunter 02:01, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've removed the following section - seems a little bit rambling and off topic but some reference to theory z might be a good idea. --LeeHunter 02:01, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

theory z - william ouchi First things first - Theory Z is not a Mcgregor idea and as such is not Mcgregor's extension of his XY theory.

Theory Z was developed by not by Mcgregor, but by William Ouchi, in his book 1981 'Theory Z: How American management can Meet the Japanese Challenge'. William Ouchi is professor of management at UCLA, Los Angeles, and a board member of several large US organisations.

Theory Z is often referred to as the 'Japanese' management style, which is essentially what it is. It's interesting that Ouchi chose to name his model 'Theory Z', which apart from anything else tends to give the impression that it's a Mcgregor idea. One wonders if the idea was not considered strong enough to stand alone with a completely new name... Nevertheless, Theory Z essentially advocates a combination of all that's best about theory Y and modern Japanese management, which places a large amount of freedom and trust with workers, and assumes that workers have a strong loyalty and interest in team-working and the organisation.

Theory Z also places more reliance on the attitude and responsibilities of the workers, whereas Mcgregor's XY theory is mainly focused on management and motivation from the manager's and organisation's perspective. There is no doubt that Ouchi's Theory Z model offers excellent ideas, albeit it lacking the simple elegance of Mcgregor's model, which let's face it, thousands of organisations and managers around the world have still yet to embrace. For this reason, Theory Z may for some be like trying to manage the kitchen at the Ritz before mastering the ability to cook a decent fried breakfast. --

For the William Ouchi page, I suppose ? .... -- PFHLai 09:26, 2004 Aug 28 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was moved. Jonathunder 17:20, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas McGregor (business theorist) → Douglas McGregor – to revert a move that created a two-item dab page. The other DMcG is still a redlink, and there can be no question which DMcG is more notable. ~ trialsanderrors 02:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Support as nom. ~ trialsanderrors 02:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --Serge 06:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Recury 17:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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